$1.5million or $35,642.16 a month?

I just received an email telling me about the upcoming auction for golfclubs.com, which is priced at $1.5million.

Here’s the pitch:

If you have been looking for an opportunity to develop a site on a seven figure domain name then here is your chance – you could own GolfClubs.com for much less  than the 1,500,000 USD asking price if you develop it and get it earning money
to cover monthly payments of 35,642.16 USD. 

If you went cash flow positive after a year, then your actual out of pocket for the domain could be less than 300,000  USD.

What do I think is wrong with the sales pitch?

In addition to the purchase price, you’ve got to shell out an awful lot of money in development costs.

Then you have to launch your site and generate the revenue that will allow you to make some money for yourself, pay any other overhead (this is not a Google Adsense proposition) and then make enough to cover the cost of the $35,642.16 monthly payment.

In simple terms, that probably means you have to rake in at least double that repayment just to stand a chance of recouping your investment on the domain and the development.

Is that a good deal?

Is it even necessary? And let’s be brutally honest about this.

Yes, a domain name can generate a lot of visitors to a web site, but just because you have a great name, it is by no means a certainty that it will make money – if you have a site that doesn’t sell effectively, you’re not going to make any kind of return and that $35,642.16 will soon eat your cash and leave you feeling foolish.

Golf clubs are a price-sensitive purchase. They sell online, but I bet the majority of online shoppers in that market are more likely to use price comparison web sites in order to find the biggest discounters. They won’t buy just because your name is golfclubs.com.

Search for “golf clubs” on Google and almost all of the top 10 positions and those buying Adwords placement are pushing “discount” purchases.

To me, that makes the valuation rocky at best.

The sales pitch places an emphasis on the fact that the name has to be developed. At least that part is right.

But development is expensive and in my opinion (for what it’s worth), that name is not a domainer purchase, it’s an established end-user purchase. In fact, I don’t think you can build a business with it, you can only reinforce one. It’s more marketing than substance.

In order to generate cash, golfclubs.com requires not only the investment in the name and development, but also stock.

The profit comes from the difference between the buying price of golf clubs and the selling price – and it’s that margin that has to pay the $35,642.16 payment each month before the owner can eat.

Imagine the stock holding required to generate that kind of income.

Now I know I tread a different line to most domainers. I look for niches that I can capitalise on and then look for others to do the work.

Usually, I only have find the customer. Somebody else takes the capital risk when they do the job – be it on specialist equipment, staff, stock and other things – in short, it’s a simple deal for me with no downside and no risk.

I’m not suggesting for a moment that there’s anything wrong with buying golfclubs.com – except that in a domain deal, like any kind of deal, you have to look closely at the numbers.

Times have moved on from the early speculation games we all played.

Domain names will not automatically increase in value because buyers are more sophisticated than that, so investing $1.5million in a name now is no guarantee that it will be worth more later. The added value has to be built at that kind of price.

At least the sales pitch for golfclubs.com emphasises the need for development and a business plan and to me, that is a massive statement and as much a warning as a sales pitch.

16 Responses to “$1.5million or $35,642.16 a month?”

  • owen frager says:

    I think this is an issue with all high value names and why domainer-to-domainer sales are at a stalemate. Domainers need only chose one of the names they already own to develop and if done right and with passion, that’ all they will ever need.

  • KD says:

    It’s a great name and all of the big golf companies should look into owning this name.Nike,Calloway,Adams,Ping, even Dick’s Sporting Goods or the many famous golf courses around the world.Myrtle Beach would be a good place to shop this name.I love to golf it has become my new passion and I would buy this a an instant for 1.5 thats a deal 5 years from now it will be worth alot more.The sky’s the limit.See ya on the golf course,Kevin Davis

  • Bill says:

    One of the best posts ever linked off domaining.com, its too bad it will be lost and burned in all the eliot silver and domaingang dribble….

  • SkyDomains says:

    Boldly and well said.
    I love when people say ” I will buy it in a minute if I have” The fact is, it is always easier to spend imaginary money.

  • Joe Saladino says:

    Maybe a poor sales pitch. However, the domain golfclubs.com perhaps might sell for a million or more. Have a look at some other domains we have which will sell for millions in the future. http://www.internetfirm.com
    Joe Saladino

  • Jack Ford says:

    Valuate.com shows golfclubs.com at $400k.

    If you use the same tool and check candy.com its accurate.

    I think at the 400-600k range it MIGHT sell. Like you said can you really build a business with it?

  • Incredulous says:

    I stopped reading this post after you said a business couldn’t be built on GolfClubs.com…

    And who says you would actually have to SELL golf clubs and hold inventory?

    I suppose Hotels.com had to go build or buy all the hotels they provide service for?

    • admin says:

      The point of the post wasn’t to rubbish the domain, nor did I mean that the only business you can build is one selling golf clubs – though that’s the most obvious.

      Golfclubs.com was just an example of a high value name being sold on the basis of it’s potential once developed – whatever that development model might be.

      If the value is in the development, then personally, I question the high price for the domain, given that the pitch for it is based on a $35K per month outlay and completely disregards the associated costs of that development – no matter what business model is attached to it.

  • M. Menius says:

    Really good post. Now it must be said that this is a premium domain name, no question. That being said, excellent points above about start-up, inventory and maintenance costs. Just how big is the “golf clubs” industry?

    With something like this, I wonder how important the “hands on” aspect is before making a purchase. Is this a product that would not sell well online because people need to experience the feel and weight of the clubs? I would assume there’s a pretty substantial profit margin factored in golf club sales.

  • Gordon says:

    why bother trying to sell this to domainers – the only person who will spend this money is going to be an existing retailer of some sort, and even then it is a ton of money. An existing retailer with an existing site they have been branding for years – could buy that name for $1.5 – or they could have an extra $25k per month to spend on advertising, ppc, seo, marketing and more branding – for the next 5 years.

    It is a great name, I’d love to have it – but you can understand why it is a difficult sell.

  • Patrick McDermott says:

    “If you use the same tool and check candy.com its accurate.”

    Jack, that’s because Candy.com sold for $3 mil and the tool knows that.

    Without that knowledge, it’s really hit or miss.

    I just put iReport.com into Valuate.

    It says iReport is appraised at $770,000.

    iReport sold for $750,000.

    Valuate knows this.

    Without that sale knowledge, do you think Valuate would have given iReport an appraisal anywhere near 3/4 of a $ million ?

    I don’t.

    Look at the appraisal amount Valuate gave these other “i” domains:

    iForeclosure.com -$670
    iProperty.com —- $3,200
    iRealEstate.com — < $100

    By the way, I am not putting the valuate tool down.

    I'm just pointing out the appraisals are skewed when the prior domain sale amount is known.

  • It seems as though (especially in the domain world) that beauty is in the eye of the “seller” not the buyer? I suppose that is ok because you affectively only have to find a single buyer and it is FREE to ask for “One Million Dollars” these days.

    I do love the generic domain name…

  • Mike says:

    well written post. While I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, I will say though, that there’s a lot of money in golf. I recently met someone who took up a second job at a country club for extra income, and she’s told me that a private membership at this prestigious club goes as much as $75k/year, which is absolutely obscene if you ask me. I would be pitching this name to end-users all the way.

    • admin says:

      Absolutely Mike, it’s one of the world’s most popular sports and the market is massive.

      I would bear in mind though, that the name on sale is not golf.com – it’s golfclubs.com, still a big enough niche to make a ton of money, but not without development and not without considerable overhead, which kind of limits your target market.

  • I have got some trouble with your blog layout with the newest release of Opera. It is fine in IE6 and Firefox though.

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